Subaru?
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From: Allan V <deftonz1@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:59:22
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Reply-To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
=0AOr reliable Japanese alternative...if you dont have bags of money
to spa=
re
Allan
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On Thu, 22 Dec, 2011 10:37 PM EST Patrick Tone wrote:
One buys a BMW instead of a VW/Audi.=20
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On 2011-12-22, at 22:11, "Jer" <mk2jer@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just a staggering statement, below.
I can see both sides, but just can't fathom what the manufacturer
is ask=
ing and what sort of benchmark this has set.
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What does one do?
Suck it up?
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From: Gareth Pocock <kramerica.ind@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:30:11 -0500
To: list@xxxxxxxx<list@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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I would think it is on the customer if Audi has run their oil
consumptio=
n test and validated that there is no 'issue'...as is the case for
the 3 pe=
ople I know who've tried to get new motors.=20
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Plus if your oil light is on and you don't top it off who should
be at f=
ault?
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J-rod told me a while back when i got the mkv, that it's really
really d=
ifficult to get a new motor as a result of this issue unless the
consumptio=
n is more than VW/Audi's test allows for...and because of how
unreasonable =
the allowable consumption limit is it seems you'll pretty much be
stuck hav=
ing to top off your oil every 3-4 fill ups as long as you own the
car.=20
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- gareth
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On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:10 PM, tmb <the_questionist@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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are you sure about that scott?
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the manufacturer can't assume that their customers know how to
even pop =
the hood of their cars, let alone check the oil. if the car is
brought to =
the dealer with 1L less oil per 2000km, and they say its normal,
then who i=
s to be believed? the dealer? or the car's OBD system?
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if the engine is damaged between regularly scheduled oil changes,
and th=
e customer has records showing that the services were done as per VW/
Audi, =
and that the customers' concerns of excessive oil consumption were
disregar=
ded, then it is most certainly not on the customer to pay for the
repairs. =
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jason
tmb
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From: Scott ... <far4ngn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Volkswagens of Toronto <list@xxxxxxxx>=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:08:07 PM
Subject: RE: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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the onus is still on the vehicle owner to check oil level between
change=
s. If they run it dry and seize it then the mfg isn't going cover it
regard=
less of how much oil the engines uses.
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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
To: list@xxxxxxxx
From: mk2jer@xxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:41:26 +0000
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Yeah, THEN who's on the hook?
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From: canadaboy@xxxxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:32:14 +0000
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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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One would think emissions etc would suffer from that volume.
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Buddy at work correctly pointed out that if he follows the audi
guidelin=
es for oilchanges, he will run out of oil before the next scheduled
change.
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From: "Scott ..." <far4ngn@xxxxxxxxxxx>=20
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:37:29 -0500
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Subject: RE: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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engines 'using' oil seems to be a common issue with modern turbo
4's... =
MINI has the same issue with their 1.6T in the cooper S and they say
the sa=
me thing, its normal. *shrug*
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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
From: kramerica.ind@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:13:33 -0500
To: list@xxxxxxxx
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Yes, 2.0L FSI/TFSI motors.=20
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From what I've gathered the 2006-2008.5 versions were most
troublesome.=
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-gareth
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On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:04 PM, <andymoore@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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I assume we're talking about the same motor in all these cases? 2.0?
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:42:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
From: sandor@xxxxxxxx
To: list@xxxxxxxx
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wow...1L every 2K...that's enough to make most high mileage VR's
blush=
.
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So I have a buddy here at work who has a 2 year old A4. He's
currently burning 1L of oil per 2000km. He's talked to Audi, and
the=
y
tell him this is perfectly normal.
What do you smart people think? that sounds excessive to me...
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