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Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning

I must argee, my wife's Elantra has been very reliable since new. definitely NOT an exciting car to drive, but good fuel consumption and cheap and easy to maintain, regular maintenance and repairs have been MUCH easier to access than any other car I've worked on. only repairs have been expected wear and tear items at average mileage, battery, brakes, tie rod ends, tires, and light bulbs. My Jetta has more things wrong with it right now at the same age and with close to the same mileage. 

Jeremy

On 28/12/2011 10:35 PM, Alistair Aleem wrote:

I don't think there was initially any talk about a sporty car.   If sporty then yes Evo or sti.

I meant in general the Koreans are very good contenders with the japs.

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On Dec 28, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Allan V<deftonz1@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:


K man knows what im talking about...had an STI come around atthe right price i would be driving one. There is no Korean car that causes half reaction as an EVO8 nevermind the EVO 10. Korean cars are a cheap substitute for Japanese cars.

Buying a Genisis really just means you cant afford an 7 or S...your not fooling all of us.

Allan


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On Wed, 28 Dec, 2011 8:30 PM EST Kreso wrote:




Subarus great cars no electrical problems. Made by Fuji Heavy Industries.



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On 2011-12-28, at 7:02 PM, "Jer"<mk2jer@xxxxxxxx>  wrote:


Subaru?

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=0AOr reliable Japanese alternative...if you dont have bags of money to spa=
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On Thu, 22 Dec, 2011 10:37 PM EST Patrick Tone wrote:

One buys a BMW instead of a VW/Audi.=20

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On 2011-12-22, at 22:11, "Jer"<mk2jer@xxxxxxxx>  wrote:


Just a staggering statement, below.
I can see both sides, but just can't fathom what the manufacturer is ask=

ing and what sort of benchmark this has set.

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What does one do?
Suck it up?
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From: Gareth Pocock<kramerica.ind@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:30:11 -0500
To: list@xxxxxxxx<list@xxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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I would think it is on the customer if Audi has run their oil consumptio=

n test and validated that there is no 'issue'...as is the case for the 3 pe=
ople I know who've tried to get new motors.=20

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Plus if your oil light is on and you don't top it off who should be at f=

ault?

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J-rod told me a while back when i got the mkv, that it's really really d=

ifficult to get a new motor as a result of this issue unless the consumptio=
n is more than VW/Audi's test allows for...and because of how unreasonable =
the allowable consumption limit is it seems you'll pretty much be stuck hav=
ing to top off your oil every 3-4 fill ups as long as you own the car.=20

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- gareth
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On Dec 22, 2011, at 6:10 PM, tmb<the_questionist@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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are you sure about that scott?
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the manufacturer can't assume that their customers know how to even pop =

the hood of their cars, let alone check the oil.  if the car is brought to =
the dealer with 1L less oil per 2000km, and they say its normal, then who i=
s to be believed?  the dealer?  or the car's OBD system?

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if the engine is damaged between regularly scheduled oil changes, and th=

e customer has records showing that the services were done as per VW/Audi, =
and that the customers' concerns of excessive oil consumption were disregar=
ded, then it is most certainly not on the customer to pay for the repairs. =
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jason
tmb
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From: Scott ...<far4ngn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Volkswagens of Toronto<list@xxxxxxxx>=20
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:08:07 PM
Subject: RE: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
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the onus is still on the vehicle owner to check oil level between change=

s. If they run it dry and seize it then the mfg isn't going cover it regard=
less of how much oil the engines uses.

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To: list@xxxxxxxx
From: mk2jer@xxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:41:26 +0000
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Yeah, THEN who's on the hook?
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One would think emissions etc would suffer from that volume.
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Buddy at work correctly pointed out that if he follows the audi guidelin=

es for oilchanges, he will run out of oil before the next scheduled change.

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From: "Scott ..."<far4ngn@xxxxxxxxxxx>=20
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:37:29 -0500
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engines 'using' oil seems to be a common issue with modern turbo 4's... =

MINI has the same issue with their 1.6T in the cooper S and they say the sa=
me thing, its normal. *shrug*

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Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
From: kramerica.ind@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:13:33 -0500
To: list@xxxxxxxx
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Yes, 2.0L FSI/TFSI motors.=20
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 From what I've gathered the 2006-2008.5 versions were most troublesome.=

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On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:04 PM,<andymoore@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
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I assume we're talking about the same motor in all these cases? 2.0?
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:42:12 -0500
Subject: Re: [VWoT] Audi oil burning
From: sandor@xxxxxxxx
To: list@xxxxxxxx
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wow...1L every 2K...that's enough to make most high mileage VR's blush=

.

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So I have a buddy here at work who has a 2 year old A4. He's
currently burning 1L of oil per 2000km. He's talked to Audi, and the=

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tell him this is perfectly normal.

What do you smart people think? that sounds excessive to me...

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